How to attack the quaddies ( Update below)

The big attraction with Quaddies is that you can get a big collect for a relatively small outlay. The pick 6 has a similar drawcard but obviously you need to pick two extra winners which is often the downfall of most punters. The most common approach to the Quaddie will be for punters to sort out a leg with one or two anchors and then take as many as they can afford in the other legs for a percentage bet. I suggest thinking a bit more about this approach. Let’s say in one leg you really think horses A, B and C are strong chances to win but horses D and E have a rough chance of winning if things went their way, and horse F is fresh up with a senior jockey on and could be the blowout.  If you take a percentage bet with equal amounts on all 6 of these horses you are saying that they all have an equal chance of winning. You obviously don't think that so why not reflect that in the combinations that you take?

This is the approach I suggest taking. Firstly, only bet on Quaddies where there is sufficient form to make confident opinions. Then decide on how much to invest on the race. Based on the strategy below it will cost $100 but can be scaled down with percentage betting. I strongly suggest that you work out how much you can afford each week for this type of bet.

The next step is to analyse the form in each race and categorise each horse into one of four different classes. The ‘A’ chances are the ones you are most confident about winning and may also include any horse that you think could win and could be overlooked by most punters. The’B’ runners may have one or two things going for them but will need something to go wrong with the A contenders to win or get some good luck going their way.  ‘C’ contenders are horses that you cannot completely eliminate but have shown enough to warrant inclusion in a minor percentage ticket. The ‘D’ runners are horses that you feel cannot win.

At the end of the form analysis you may have in Leg 1,  3 xA’s, 2x B’s, 2 xC’s and 5x D’s. 2 xA’s, 2x B’s, 2 xC’s and 4 xD’s in Leg2. 2 xA’s, 3x B’s, 2 xC’s and 6x D’s in Leg3 and 3 xA’s, 1x B,  1 xC and 6 xD’s in Leg 4.

After doing all the form you will be more confident about some of the legs than others. Let’s say in this case you are confident one of the 3x A horses in Leg 4 will win so don’t take the B or C selections in any bets from that leg. You also feel confident that the A and B selections in leg 1 have it covered.  Your final bet combinations may look like this with the amount bet on each combination.

$30 AAAA, $10 each on ABAA,AABA,BAAA,BBAA, BABA, BBBA, and $5 each on AACA, and ACAA. The combinations may vary according to how confident you feel about each leg. If the main bet of $30 comes in you get 80% of the dividend. With the $10 bets you get approximately 25% and the $5 bet about 12%. If you had simply coupled up all the combinations you would only get 10% of the dividend.  Long term, this can make a huge difference to your profits. The key is doing your homework thoroughly.

I will be previewing all quaddies with  a table showing the four different categories in each leg.

Update -  Monday March 2

The average punter could ask why the Quaddie is good value when the takeout on a win bet pool is 14.5% and the Quaddie is 25%. On the face of it, that is 10.5% more so how can we be getting a fair deal? I’ll explain why it is excellent value.

Firstly, let’s say we have four races, which are the quaddie legs and by some good fortune you select the topweight in each race to win and place an all-up win bet on it and they all win.  To get a fair comparison, we will assume that the topweight is backed equally in both the win pools  and quaddie pool. Let’s assume there is no TAB take out on either pool and the topweight has attracted 20% of the bets in all the win pools and the quaddie pools, so therefore he pays $5 for a win  in each leg. An all up win bet would produce a 5 x5 x5 x 5 = $625 dividend. As it has attracted the same percentage   of betting in the quaddie it would also pay $625.

But now, let’s see how the TAB takeouts change those dividends. In leg 1 there is a 14.5% TAB takeout from the win pool, so that $5.00 would now become $4.275c and as the TAB round down to the nearest 10c it would be $4.20. The same dividend would be declared for each winning topweight. So now we can multiply that win dividend together to get our payout for the all up bet. $4.20 x $4.20 x $4.20 x $4.20 = $311.10. Now let’s compare that to the one off takeout of 25% from the quaddie pool. That $625 dividend will be reduced by $156.25 leaving a dividend of $468.70 which is $157.60 (50% ) more than the all-up bet! And what’s more, when the pools are comingled with Australia the takeout will drop to 20% meaning even greater value. When you combine the fact that favourites are nearly always overbet in the quaddies, with plenty of homework and the right staking plan, they are an excellent bet type.